Q&A with The Royals’ Nick Cummins: Why the world needs more agencies + how to start one
Nick Cummins (left), creative partner at The Royals believes our industry needs more agencies, and next week at AdFest 2019, he’s giving a talk explaining his passion for start-ups, and why it is easier to start an agency from scratch rather than change an old agency.
Cummins has started two independent advertising agencies in Australia – Sputnik Agency and The Royals – and both have grown to become multi-award-winning, culture-led businesses. He sold his first agency to a white-collar criminal who ended up in a Columbian prison charged with fraud – one of many anecdotes he’ll share at AdFest next week.
His career spans 30 years in both traditional and digital agencies. Since launching The Royals seven years ago as creative partner, it’s grown into an agency of over 80 people across Sydney and Melbourne.
The Royals has a very distinctive mission: to be the most interested agency in the world. How did you arrive at that mission and what impact does it have on the work you create for clients?
Striving to be the most interested agency in the world is a huge part of our culture. It is something I think our industry has lost along the way. I love the legends of great advertising people from the ’60s going out to factories interviewing the makers of a product to get a better understanding of how to market it.
So being interested in our clients’ businesses, products and consumers is nothing new but incredibly important. But ‘most interested’ goes beyond that – it is a healthy interest in pop culture, community sentiment, platforms and channels that we can use to make connections with our audience. Finding people who are personally ‘most interested’ helps our business and our clients’ businesses immensely.
Do you really think the world needs more advertising agencies? Why is this the topic of your ADFEST session?
No, of course the world doesn’t need more advertising agencies, but I believe our industry desperately does. I also believe if new vibrant creative, intelligent, businesses pop up and flourish with people who come to work to solve problems in new ways, we may find some of them might just help solve some of the problems our world faces today.
Can you tell us a little about The Royals – what was your vision seven years ago at launch, and have you stayed true to it?
Starting a business is easy, sticking to it is difficult. For us, starting The Royals began with a conversation at the pub about what kind of agency we felt Australia needed at the time. I went home that night and told my wife I was going to start another business and we would probably have to sell the house. She is very supportive, my wife.
Our vision was to create an agency that sat between large multinationals that are good at strategy and storytelling and digital shops that are great at understanding new platforms and technologies. So we started collecting the kinds of people who get modern communications and we are still collecting them today.
Yes, I believe we have stayed true to our vision. We try to look at the agency as an operating system. We are constantly making updates and improvements and I think being independent makes that easy. We don’t have to ask New York for approval to change a process or try something different. It helps us avoid falling into the trap of just doing things the same way the industry has for the last 50 years.
The Royals hired 40 people in 2018. What are the challenges of growing so rapidly?
Culture. And remembering everyone’s names. I’m shit with names. Creating a culture together is one of the most exciting things to be a part of in any business. If you get it right, it is rocket fuel for an organisation. So managing culture while having rapid growth is incredibly important. Like rocket fuel, if you don’t have a tight grip on the wheel things can get wobbly.
The Royals now has its own research and development lab, as well as a CX division. How has this impacted your own creative process or improved the agency’s work?
These two skill sets are a great example of how we have stuck to our vision of creating a truly integrated and modern agency filled with a very diverse group of people. Even though we call them a department, they work in true collaborative fashion with the broader agency.
Our CX division was born from being ‘most interested’. Listening to our clients, it became clear this was something they wanted to channel energy towards. Our CX team is knocking it out of the park at the moment. Advance Party, our product research and development lab, has been part of our agency for the past few years. It has its own dedicated space within the building. Having this mind set and skill set enables us to solve problems for our clients that normally wouldn’t come to us in the form of a marketing brief.
What do you look for when you’re hiring creatives?
For me, it is about finding interested entrepreneurial people. I have seen individuals shape independent agencies. Tapping in to that passion that someone has can create incredible momentum for the agency. We have revelry as one of our three values. If our staff are revelling in what they love to do, if they are hustling and shaping the agency, it makes things exciting and creates growth for the agency and all who live within it.
What’s your proudest achievement – professional or otherwise?
I think being part of starting two successful agencies that people talk highly of would have to be something that makes me proud. Creating an environment and atmosphere that people remember as being a great chapter in their lives after they move on is a worthy achievement to me. It’s why we named the company The Royals. We think of ourselves as a gang. I’m a Royal, you’re a Royal.
Oh and my kids. My kids are pretty cool and I had a hand in raising them.
With offices in Sydney and Melbourne, do you have plans for expanding into other markets? What are your goals for 2019?
At the moment we are focused on Melbourne and Sydney. 2019 is going to be a year all about our creative product.
‘Why the World Needs More Agencies and how to start one’, presented by Nick Cummins, takes place on Friday 22nd March in Pattaya, Thailand as part of AdFest 2019.
20 Comments
Who does he think he is? Karl Marx?
I think he probably think’s he’s a dude who’s founded two successful agencies and was asked some questions accordingly.
How many successful agencies have you founded? I look forward to reading the interview with you.
Karl Marx was trying to make things better. Sounds like Nick is too. Good on him.
Yeah!
We all unfortunately unconsciously form judgements based on appearance.
But the rest of us are trying to leave that world behind.
You, on the other hand, have chosen to speak and have subsequently revealed yourself as a tosser. Actually, even worse, an anonymous, trolling tosser.
As someone once said “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”
Different, true, authentic leader. Australia defiantly needs more Creative Directors like you.
I’ll try to be a better person in future.
Great
Start by keeping your negative shit to yourself
Your comments do everything to hurt this industry.
You can only live on culture for so long. You’ve got to do some decent work eventually.
doing world class creative is the best way to build a truly authentic creative culture. try that and see how you go mate.
Nick’s a solid bloke, don’t mind the photo. Built (two?) agencies and put his own house on the line for it (from what he told me). I’ve judged with him and respect his opinion. I even tried to work for him, but he went with someone cheaper. Still one of those blokes that I can’t hold a grudge against even though he’s doing some really good work for Mercedes and professionally I probably should hold a grudge against him.
But I also own a beard and am a fan of Rick Rubin, so maybe I don’t hold any bias.
Well done Nick.
You’ve put it on the line.
Found salaries for people every month
Given them a place to arrive.
Responsibility every day.
Goals to achieve.
Dreams to reach.
Ignore the doubters.
Jealousy is the chosen spirit of life’s failures.
March on.
Well put!
Cummo’s entrepreneurial spirit and bravery should be admired, I certainly admire him and his business partners.
Working for him at Sputnik and the life long friends I made there are highlights of my working life. Cummins and the other Directors of that business were internet pioneers in Australia, they were generous to staff and set us up for successful careers.
Why not simply call the agency Cummins & Partners.
I forgot how nasty this blog can be. Here’s a guy encouraging creative people to start agencies and sharing some of his secrets along the way. Thanks Nick. I appreciate the encouragement. We need more people like you.
We need more new agencies, different models and good cultures.
Congratulations Nick, and thanks.
Welcome to the Australian ad I industry! Irrelevant juniors and outdated seniors and midweights who think they’re seniors commenting on this blog instead of doing good fucking work! Get over yourselves and focus on the work instead of the politics, backstabbing, playing the ‘I’m good but get overlooked’ card and commenting on anonymous blogs and actually make shit! What a disgrace this Australian industry is!
No mention of the redundancies in 2018.
Superbly said Nick. Best of luck to you.